In a new cover story interview with Rolling Stone, the "What Was That" singer, 28, opened up about feeling "in the middle gender-wise" rather than identifying strictly as a man or a woman and recalled once duct-taping her chest in order to express how she thought of herself in the moment.

In the lead-up to her new album Virgin, Lorde has started to slowly open up about her broadening gender identity with the world. But before she was ready to do that, she confided in one of her new friends: Chappell Roan.

Lorde is comfortable in her own skin, which means she’s not restricting herself when it comes to her gender identity. She broaches the topic in the lyrics on “Virgin,” her first new album in four years. In the album’s opening song, she boldly declares, “Some days I’m a woman/ Some days I’m a man.”